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Thanks ksonowal.

 

When I use the magic number 32767/29634 for match exercise, I have a crash dump. When I use the number for fitness, I don't see the change. What is the difference for the magic number between match exercice and fitness. I think that when you use the magic number for  the match exercice, the player is doped (he win Usain Bolt for running for exemple). But if you use the magic number for the fitness, I don't know that it changes.

 

 

polite question, no offense intended: are you using FMRTE for the 1st time?

 

if yes, then check these steps:

1) FMRTE must support your game version

2) uncheck the option 'compress save games' in the game preferences menu (most probably this is the reason for that crash dump. what does the crash dump say btw?)

3) in FMRTE settings menu uncheck 'Freeze players when FMRTE starts' and check/select 'reload screen info when switching tabs' (so the changes that you have made are reflected instantaneously). don't forget to save after making these changes in FMRTE.

4) in the FMRTE, in the team screen menu of the team that you are managing, after applying the preset ( you will find them in post # 68 of this forum) save, refresh and switch to screen of any player from your team. you should see that changes have been made. 

 

yeah it does serve that Usain Bolt purpose and believe me, it works for fitness. i repeat again, applying 32767 or 29634 to fitness only is more than sufficient. your team will rip the opponents apart.  :ph34r:

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No it's not my first time but I don't use all options every years.

 

1) Yes it's oki

2) It's oki. I had check this option but I have crash dump yet.

3) I think it's oki also :

 

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3) I don't understand. What should I do? " applying the preset " ? What preset? What should I to change in this screen?

 

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What is the difference between 32767 and 29634? I must use 32767 or 29634 for how many players?

 

Thanks a lot for your help. You're very kind !

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@gladia2393 - i had attached a couple of presets in post # 68 of this thread. you have to save these presets in the presets folder which is located in the installation folder of FMRTE. 

 

if you are using the installer for FMRTE then the tentative location for the presets folder would be like this in your system:

C:\BraCa Soft\FMRTE v5\Presets (depending upon which version of FMRTE you are using).

 

1) just copy the presets and save them in your folder.

2) in the FMRTE screen click on the 'Teams' tab and on the right hand side under the header 'Options' there should be a 'Custom     Presets' button.

3) click on that button, then click on the desired preset and then save and refresh. this applies the values to the entire team.

you can view any player of your team to check if the changes have been applied.    

 

i hope you have figured it out now by now.  :rolleyes:

i don't know how to make video tutorials else i would have uploaded one straightway. 

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It's been a long time since I've posted anything new and this thread has been tagged as a guide/tutorial.

Well the stuff that I gonna put up now, I'm not entirely sure if I should create a new thread or continue on this one...seems like I'll continue on this thread itself.

It's meant for rookie FMRTE users. Experienced users already have figured out most of this stuff. It's mostly financial tricks and a couple of stuff for player performance. So here it goes:

 

1. How to become a super rich club. Well you could simply edit wages & trf salary but that's not exactly getting rich coz your season profit will be ultimately zero at the end of the season. I'm talking about massive revenue streams like Bayern Munich, Man Utd, Real Madrid & Barcelona which organically makes your club the richest over 2/3 seasons.

Till now most of the suggestions have centered around-

- changing sugar daddy type to foreground (kid stuff!),

- increasing stadium capacity (drastically increases match day expenses, i've tried massive ones with 400~500k capacity not worth it),

- developing & selling players (heck I don't have that much time),

- editing sponsorships (it's ok, you get money once a season, try editing some of sponsorships to govt. grant as it's tax free or club membership which keeps growing annually if you perform well. New sponsorships can be added by changing kit sponsorship to other/general income. At the end of the month you'll be offered a new kit sponsorship, then you can edit either of the two. Max value of individual sponsorships is ~$2 billion)

My preferred methods are:

A. individual TV deal (works like a charm. edit using aforementioned method. Pumps money every week. I generally set it to $200 million per annum, limit is ~$2 billion/annum)

B. this one is the best SIMPLY THE BEST! Go to team info screen, 3 figures are given for max, min & avg attendance, simply edit the avg attendance figures (min attendance just to make sure, keep max attendance just above actual stadium capacity) to millions gazillions whatever you like. This trick makes your merchandise sales just shoot through the roof. Money rolls into your bank a/c every sunday.

Want more money?

i) Go to Supporter Profile- change loyalty, passion and affluence to 127/ max 255.

ii) go to staff select all board members (chairman is the most important) and change their attributes like business, resources, ambition and loyalty to max 127 (this step discards the need for sugar daddy, your board members now have money and entrepreneurship in their DNA. once while managing Inter my board members negotiated a $750 million/annum stadium sponsorship deal. also they give you huge trf and wage budgets. they are also more open to facility upgrades and other stuff)

iii) select the city where your team is based and increase population to 20 million+ and attractiveness to 127/ max 255. this also gives a huge boost to merchandise sales although comparatively lower than the aforementioned avg attendance method. might also give a boost to other teams based in the same city.

 

2. Enuff abt greed. Now abt the playas. Well developing my club's own home grown players has always given me huge satisfaction. However sometimes players with huge PA ~ 170+ take a long time to develop or don't quite reach their full potential even when they are 30 yrs of age.

The solution is quite simple. Before every trf window scout the world for players of age 17 yrs or below with huge PA ~160+ buy them, place them in the youth team and then edit their

- technique, determination, work rate, consistency to max 25;

- injury proneness to single digits; &

- adaptability, temperament, professionalism (most important), pressure to 99/ max 127. ambition (player will ask for huge wages) & loyalty ( increasing it above 20 causes contract negotiation problems unless you accept the player's original contract demands) can also be edited to 99/ max 127).

by the time the player turns 21 his CA is ~90% of PA. you hv got readymade players for your 1st team by the time your existing players retire. i've found it very useful to replace my iconic players at the same performance levels.

 

3. finally the fitness/condition tweak. max values for fitness, match exercise are 32767, jadedness is -32767 and morale is 125.

i generally use the FM Possession Break tactic (available on an fm-base.com forum thread) and cheat engine to freeze fitness & jadedness values to max. cheat engine also has a speed hack which enables me to run FM at 5X speeds. saves a lot of time. in this tactic change the fitness,condition,jadedness & morale values for DM, DL, DR, DC to max and for the rest change only fitness, jadedness & morale. i get min 75% possession in every match apart from goals and true tiki-taka gameplay (works best for FM 12 which till date is the best version for me)

 

4. @Elderaine (if i have spelled correctly) on  has suggested that setting position ability (green dots) to 120 takes a player to the next level. I request my readers to verify this value. a position cheat had existed earlier maybe till FM 2009 but in the later versions it caused the game to crash. Possible values to try are 25/99/120/125/127/255 & 29634/32767 (i doubt the last two values would work). Kindly report you findings.

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This is in addition to my previous post :

1) training facilities for 1st team & youth team, corporate facilities (own stadium not rented), youth academy can also be upgraded to state of the art by changing their value to 127/ max 255 on the team info page. then they need not be upgraded for decades to come. also on the same page there is morale which can be set to 125 ( you're welcome to experiment), chairman status (don't know the exact value for this) & youth recruitment which stays at max 20 (pls check against other values)

2) in my previous post in point no. 3 if you are using FMTN Possession Break Tactic of the 3 DM's it's the DMC whose condition has to be maxed out. if i get time i"ll post screenshots of my results with this tactic.

 

Cheers guys!

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This is in addition to my previous post :

1) training facilities for 1st team & youth team, corporate facilities (own stadium not rented), youth academy can also be upgraded to state of the art by changing their value to 127/ max 255 on the team info page. then they need not be upgraded for decades to come. also on the same page there is morale which can be set to 125 ( you're welcome to experiment), chairman status (don't know the exact value for this) & youth recruitment which stays at max 20 (pls check against other values)

2) in my previous post in point no. 3 if you are using FMTN Possession Break Tactic of the 3 DM's it's the DMC whose condition has to be maxed out. if i get time i"ll post screenshots of my results with this tactic.

 

Cheers guys!

How do you freeze fitness and morale. Can you please share?

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It's been a long time since I've posted anything new and this thread has been tagged as a guide/tutorial.

Well the stuff that I gonna put up now, I'm not entirely sure if I should create a new thread or continue on this one...seems like I'll continue on this thread itself.

It's meant for rookie FMRTE users. Experienced users already have figured out most of this stuff. It's mostly financial tricks and a couple of stuff for player performance. So here it goes:

 

1. How to become a super rich club. Well you could simply edit wages & trf salary but that's not exactly getting rich coz your season profit will be ultimately zero at the end of the season. I'm talking about massive revenue streams like Bayern Munich, Man Utd, Real Madrid & Barcelona which organically makes your club the richest over 2/3 seasons.

Till now most of the suggestions have centered around-

- changing sugar daddy type to foreground (kid stuff!),

- increasing stadium capacity (drastically increases match day expenses, i've tried massive ones with 400~500k capacity not worth it),

- developing & selling players (heck I don't have that much time),

- editing sponsorships (it's ok, you get money once a season, try editing some of sponsorships to govt. grant as it's tax free or club membership which keeps growing annually if you perform well. New sponsorships can be added by changing kit sponsorship to other/general income. At the end of the month you'll be offered a new kit sponsorship, then you can edit either of the two. Max value of individual sponsorships is ~$2 billion)

My preferred methods are:

A) individual TV deal (works like a charm. edit using aforementioned method. Pumps money every week. I generally set it to $200 million per annum, limit is ~$2 billion/annum)

B) this one is the best SIMPLY THE BEST! Go to team info screen, 3 figures are given for max, min & avg attendance, simply edit the avg attendance figures (min attendance just to make sure, keep max attendance just above actual stadium capacity) to millions gazillions whatever you like. This trick makes your merchandise sales just shoot through the roof. Money rolls into your bank a/c every sunday.

Want more money?

i) Go to Supporter Profile- change loyalty, passion and affluence to 127/ max 255.

ii) go to staff select all board members (chairman is the most important) and change their attributes like business, resources, ambition and loyalty to max 127 (this step discards the need for sugar daddy, your board members now have money and entrepreneurship in their DNA. once while managing Inter my board members negotiated a $750 million/annum stadium sponsorship deal. also they give you huge trf and wage budgets. they are also more open to facility upgrades and other stuff)

iii) select the city where your team is based and increase population to 20 million+ and attractiveness to 127/ max 255. this also gives a huge boost to merchandise sales although comparatively lower than the aforementioned avg attendance method. might also give a boost to other teams based in the same city.

 

2. Enuff abt greed. Now abt the playas. Well developing my club's own home grown players has always given me huge satisfaction. However sometimes players with huge PA ~ 170+ take a long time to develop or don't quite reach their full potential even when they are 30 yrs of age.

The solution is quite simple. Before every trf window scout the world for players of age 17 yrs or below with huge PA ~160+ buy them, place them in the youth team and then edit their

- technique, determination, work rate, consistency to max 25;

- injury proneness to single digits; &

- adaptability, temperament, professionalism (most important), pressure to 99/ max 127. ambition (player will ask for huge wages) & loyalty ( increasing it causes above 20 causes contract negotiation problems unless you accept the player's original contract demands) can also be edited to 99/ max 127).

by the time the player turns 21 his CA is ~90% of PA. you hv got readymade players for your 1st team by the time your existing players retire. i've found it very useful to replace my iconic players at the same performance levels.

 

3. finally the fitness/condition tweak. max values for fitness, match exercise are 32767, jadedness is -32767 and morale is 125.

i generally use the FM Possession Break tactic (available on an fm-base.com forum thread) and cheat engine to freeze fitness & jadedness values to max. cheat engine also has a speed hack which enables me to run FM at 5X speeds. saves a lot of time. in this tactic change the fitness,condition,jadedness & morale values for DM, DL, DR, DC to max and for the rest change only fitness, jadedness & morale. i get min 75% possession in every match apart from goals and true tiki-taka gameplay (works best for FM 12 which till date is the best version for me)

 

4. @Elderaine (if i have spelled correctly) on  has suggested that setting position ability (green dots) to 120 takes a player to the next level. I request my readers to verify this value. a position cheat had existed earlier maybe till FM 2009 but in the later versions it caused the game to crash. Possible values to try are 25/99/120/125/127/255 & 29634/32767 (i doubt the last two values would work). Kindly report you findings.

 

Is this working for FM15?

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Is this working for FM15?

 

Yes, I am using it now!

 

With Liverpool FC.

 

1st season. I've only recently started a new save game.

 

3 games 3 wins 33 goals for and 0 goals against.

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Hey guys! It's been quite a while. Hope everybody's doing fine.

I've seen a couple of posts asking if these presets are still working for FM's latest iterations. Guys rest assured if you use FMRTE these presets are always gonna work.

However from FM 2013 onwards fitness has ceased to have that much an impact i.e. match exercise/condition is now more important than fitness. However always keep tweaking the two of them for finding the best possible combinations suitable to your tactics. Basically there are no set rules. Also pumping condition to max 32767 sometimes results in crash dumps in the newer versions. Better take it down a notch and I'm quite sure you wouldn't want cricket score lines with such a high value for condition.

I also suggest keeping jadedness to '-32767' (freeze it on cheat engine if possible) always for all players as it helps in minimising injuries.

Frankly I haven't played FM 2013-16 with that much dedication, it's too time consuming nowadays. I couldn't care less about the 3D match engine and all the other gloss; dots on a green pitch, that's just enough for me. Btw I have only retained FM 2012 & CM 03/04 now and load them only when time permits. Guess that's life.

Anyways the latest tweak that I've been using is- all players jadedness to '-32767' and both the full backs DR/DL to max. values. Currently managing SV Wehen. Took me 3 yrs to promote them from German 3rd division to Bungesliga. It's been quite an interesting save actually and satisfying one too with all the peaks & troughs of lower league team.

A big shout out to @The Jet for single handedly keeping this thread going and answering a lot of user queries. Thanks a lot man!

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I have to say ksonowal your post is the best cheat thread I have ever read.

I had always wondered how to tweak the merchandising and income through population and average attendance and you gave me the missing link lol. Also great on how to get players to reach their potential fast.

I am not a fan of 25 superstars and winning 10-0 every game but like a flow of potentially quality players that you can develop by the time they are 21. I still enjoy the fear of losing lol

I have set the jadedness and those are 100% all the time but your last comment said if you don't freeze it it will fluctuate back to original levels yes?

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@Smertin1972 glad that my post was of help and we share the same thoughts.

Regarding merchandising tweaking only average attendance is enough. Revert it back to its original figure before the last game of the season and then when the new season starts on 1st July you're free to increase it again to whatever you desire. There's this bug where when the new season starts it automatically increases min and max attendances to the new figure thereby further multiplying your merchandising income. The problem with excess income unless you're spending a ton on player transfers and wages is the Euro 2 billion ceiling for total balance. If you cross this limit the club automatically invests this amount in what seems to me like some debt instruments which automatically pay out interest but the downside is that your club is no longer the richest club in Europe. My suggestion is to keep income through such means to around Euros 200-300 million so that it incrementally outpaces Madrid and Barcelona in 3 to 5 years depending upon the size of your club and it's fanbase.

Regarding your question about Jadedness yes it will revert back to it's original levels. In fact Match Exercise/Conditioning, Fitness and Morale all revert to their normal values after a matchday. Using FMRTE's freeze option also doesn't help. You would need to use Cheat Engine for that but I would suggest sticking to presets before every match on a matchday unless you're really comfortable with using Cheat Engine.

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I would like to give forum members an update on the position cheat. Value of 29 for best position does work. I have verified it for FM '10 & '12 versions. I have players with PA of 120-130 range who are playing better than those with 160-170 PA values. In addition if you max out determination & consistency (25 each) and professionalism (99 or 127) they are as good as any world class player in their respective position while being used in conjunction with the fitness/condition cheat. I realised in the process that you can increase the value for secondary/untrained positions only if they aren't undergoing position training for that particular position. Else it reverts back to the original value.

I would suggest using values of Match Exercise/Condition- 12749, Fitness- 12751, Morale- 125 and Jadedness- '-32767' for the a pretty realistic experience without all the injury problems. I would also suggest using a re-heal preset after playing a match on matchday itself with the values of 10001 for Fitness and Condition and '-32767' for Jadedness. This helps in avoiding excessive freak injuries during training in the normal week.

Very useful when you have a squad of 25 players with 11 imported superstars and 14 home grown players. Injuries and suspensions don't wreak havoc with your playing style anymore. Though some tweaking in tactics might be needed against stronger opponents in the league or the late stages of continental competitions. Besides it tremendously increases the market value of your players with average PA. I was managing Newcastle and had a whale of a time selling such players to Man Utd though after selling them I would revert all the changes. The biggest benefit of this cheat is that it helps in getting rid of those highly paid undesirables for a handsome fee when you take over at a new club whom no other club would take off your hands in a normal scenario.

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On 6/13/2016 at 8:49 AM, ksonowal said:

Regarding merchandising tweaking only average attendance is enough. Revert it back to its original figure before the last game of the season and then when the new season starts on 1st July you're free to increase it again to whatever you desire. There's this bug where when the new season starts it automatically increases min and max attendances to the new figure thereby further multiplying your merchandising income. The problem with excess income unless you're spending a ton on player transfers and wages is the Euro 2 billion ceiling for total balance. If you cross this limit the club automatically invests this amount in what seems to me like some debt instruments which automatically pay out interest but the downside is that your club is no longer the richest club in Europe. My suggestion is to keep income through such means to around Euros 200-300 million so that it incrementally outpaces Madrid and Barcelona in 3 to 5 years depending upon the size of your club and it's fanbase.

Regarding your question about Jadedness yes it will revert back to it's original levels. In fact Match Exercise/Conditioning, Fitness and Morale all revert to their normal values after a matchday. Using FMRTE's freeze option also doesn't help. You would need to use Cheat Engine for that but I would suggest sticking to presets before every match on a matchday unless you're really comfortable with using Cheat Engine.

I have run for 8 years now and gone a bit crazy lol

I have found that if you have a Sugar Daddy with all the financial stuff going on in the background he cleans out about 50% of you bank balance at certain points in the season. As soon as I removed the Sugar Daddy I got a £750m stadium contract and a massive second kit deal and none of my money disappeared. It was invested by the board but not taken as such.

I have also found that the 250 PA works a dream and kind of eliminates the fitness settings. I set a few players to this then tweaked work rate, determination and technique as recommended and also others to 99 to speed up growth. By age 22 they were around 200CA and 100% for every game.

I would only recommend doing 1 player to 250 though as they are flipping awesome lol. I had one player in midfield and I changed nothing except your recommended ones to speed up development and he scored 45 goals in 52 games from midfield. I think 12 of these would be 20-0 every game. He is only at 200/250 at the moment as well at 22.

I will try the average attendance when I move club as I have tampered to much with my current club to get it back to a manageable level. My ground had just been increased to 250,000 by the board as I set Min Att to 2,000,000 Avg Att to 2,100,000 and Max Att to 2,500,000 which has made the board go mad with expansion.

If the average is set then maybe it won't be so crazy

Forgot to say. Its only the stars I don't like injured. I prefer a more normal setup where you can get injuries and usual stuff just key players better

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On 17/06/2016 at 6:02 PM, Smertin1972 said:

I have run for 8 years now and gone a bit crazy lol

I have found that if you have a Sugar Daddy with all the financial stuff going on in the background he cleans out about 50% of you bank balance at certain points in the season. As soon as I removed the Sugar Daddy I got a £750m stadium contract and a massive second kit deal and none of my money disappeared. It was invested by the board but not taken as such.

I had a 20 year save with Bayern once. Boy what a career it was. Superb players, slick passing football; ahhh and those european nights. Shame i lost that save.

Glad to see that your board managed to bag a 750 million stadium deal. Happened to me once with Inter. That was a happy save too.

On 17/06/2016 at 6:02 PM, Smertin1972 said:

I have also found that the 250 PA works a dream and kind of eliminates the fitness settings. I set a few players to this then tweaked work rate, determination and technique as recommended and also others to 99 to speed up growth. By age 22 they were around 200CA and 100% for every game.

I would only recommend doing 1 player to 250 though as they are flipping awesome lol. I had one player in midfield and I changed nothing except your recommended ones to speed up development and he scored 45 goals in 52 games from midfield. I think 12 of these would be 20-0 every game. He is only at 200/250 at the moment as well at 22.

Thanks for the info and I will try it in some lower league save next time. Funny thing I last tried this in FM 2008 with FM Modifier and haven't tried that since. Last month I just learnt how to run FM 2008 in a windowed mode on 1366x768 resolution and needless to say I've been transported back to my college days again.

Unless SI is using something gorgeous like the Frostbite engine for 3D matches I'm sticking to the older FMs. I still don't get why SI doesn't team up with PES for those 3D matches. I understand that beneath the hood they're completely different engines but still feel that it would be a win-win for both.

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Just a follow up

I left my Villa post as they are to mashed up to create reality lol

However I am now with Athletic Bilbao. Top of league after 9-0-0 start and flying in EURO Cup.

The player changes make it crazy. Most of my players are only 125-150 and I am hammering everyone. I have the odd 16,17 and 18 yo 160-180 but they are all so much more solid. Almost to the point you could play anyone lol

I may have to tweak the (25's) to 21 and the (99's) to 50-60 maybe to see if that lowers performance to a more realistic level so i have  a slight edge but not this much.

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@ksonowal I'm using fm16 but will be good to have a look your preset for FM12, maybe I can use it like template and chnages for my version, will be great if you can share that file thx :)

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3 hours ago, jdaquila said:

@ksonowal I'm using fm16 but will be good to have a look your preset for FM12, maybe I can use it like template and chnages for my version, will be great if you can share that file thx :)

I would if I could figure out how to upload attachments. The only option is see is 'insert existing attachment'.

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On 13/06/2016 at 9:12 AM, ksonowal said:

I would like to give forum members an update on the position cheat. Value of 29 for best position does work. I have verified it for FM '10 & '12 versions. I have players with PA of 120-130 range who are playing better than those with 160-170 PA values. In addition if you max out determination & consistency (25 each) and professionalism (99 or 127) they are as good as any world class player in their respective position while being used in conjunction with the fitness/condition cheat. I realised in the process that you can increase the value for secondary/untrained positions only if they aren't undergoing position training for that particular position. Else it reverts back to the original value.

I would suggest using values of Match Exercise/Condition- 12749, Fitness- 12751, Morale- 125 and Jadedness- '-32767' for the a pretty realistic experience without all the injury problems. I would also suggest using a re-heal preset after playing a match on matchday itself with the values of 10001 for Fitness and Condition and '-32767' for Jadedness. This helps in avoiding excessive freak injuries during training in the normal week.

Very useful when you have a squad of 25 players with 11 imported superstars and 14 home grown players. Injuries and suspensions don't wreak havoc with your playing style anymore. Though some tweaking in tactics might be needed against stronger opponents in the league or the late stages of continental competitions. Besides it tremendously increases the market value of your players with average PA. I was managing Newcastle and had a whale of a time selling such players to Man Utd though after selling them I would revert all the changes. The biggest benefit of this cheat is that it helps in getting rid of those highly paid undesirables for a handsome fee when you take over at a new club whom no other club would take off your hands in a normal scenario.

I don't think the position cheat works. Nope. Have you tried just altering the position value, and not using all of the other cheats at the same time? I just tested this so called position cheat and it had no impact whatsoever.

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